John Ziegler, radio personality, columnist, and now activist, joined me to discuss the shut downs in California and the rest of the country, and what he sees for the future. He had some interesting theories on how we get out of this mess.
John can be found at mediaite.com and freespeechbroadcasting.com. His Twitter handle is @ZigManFreud.
Paul Mashler: music composer & performer.
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